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Post by braders on Dec 27, 2012 11:47:06 GMT 1
Looking for a set of rear leaf springs and hangers from a mk2 twin wheeler for my 190 fire van to convert fron the slipper set up to the spring hangers set up any parts or advice would be greatly appreciated cash waiting also looking for a set of rubber rear arches. C Cheers
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Post by m201 on Dec 27, 2012 12:01:33 GMT 1
Looking for a set of rear leaf springs and hangers from a mk2 twin wheeler for my 190 fire van to convert fron the slipper set up to the spring hangers set up any parts or advice would be greatly appreciated cash waiting also looking for a set of rubber rear arches. C Cheers I guess that when they fitted the Beemer engine they re-worked your brakes to match the increased power and the suspension Braders. Am I correct please?
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Post by FredTransit on Dec 27, 2012 12:45:48 GMT 1
bear in mind the brakes are already rated to stop 3.5 ton. Hopefully a disc axle was fitted to be sure. As for the springs I still have them on the luton scrapper
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Post by m201 on Dec 27, 2012 13:15:46 GMT 1
bear in mind the brakes are already rated to stop 3.5 ton. Hopefully a disc axle was fitted to be sure. As for the springs I still have them on the luton scrapper I don't know if you've noticed Fred, but modern motors stop a lot quicker than Mk1 Transits.
I guess, (hope ) that Braders has got much better brakes than solid axle Transits ever had. Something like 3 or 4 times better. Coz, otherwise, Braders won't dare use his hot engine, especially when he's got a valuable car on a trailer at the back.
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Post by braders on Dec 27, 2012 18:22:28 GMT 1
The brakes and suspension on the van have been updated it has a mk2 front beam with a disc brake set up and four pot clippers all brand new and not using a servo it has a adjustable pedal box.also new shocks all round
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Post by FredTransit on Dec 27, 2012 18:55:19 GMT 1
no servo?? You surprise me.
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Post by m201 on Dec 27, 2012 19:05:25 GMT 1
The brakes and suspension on the van have been updated it has a mk2 front beam with a disc brake set up and four pot clippers all brand new and not using a servo it has a adjustable pedal box.also new shocks all round Sounds sweet Braders.
When you say adjustable pedal box, do you mean you can adjust the nias between front and back please? If so, that sounds ideal if you want to go ahead changing rear springs. Or have you got the original load apportioning valve. There's a bit about them here if you are interested. Very near the bottom.
what-when-how.com/automobile/hydraulic-braking-system-automobile/
Have you heard of How to Make your Car Handle by Fred Puhn? It's about the best basic book on setting your motor up for handling that I know. Not too expensive on eBay or Amazon.
Doesn't cover slipper spring as far as I can remember.
One point I nearly forgot to ask, are you getting axle wind up by any chance? Could be the cause of the noise from your springs. There's a section on traction bars in that book by the way.
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Post by muttleymk2 on Dec 27, 2012 19:51:37 GMT 1
bear in mind the brakes are already rated to stop 3.5 ton. Hopefully a disc axle was fitted to be sure. As for the springs I still have them on the luton scrapper Chassis cab hangers are different to van ones
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Post by braders on Dec 27, 2012 20:01:27 GMT 1
Doesn't need a servo Fred couldn't find a left hand drive one for love nor money,that's why ended Up fitting a adjustable bias pedal box from a mk2 escort rally car,the pedal is a bit hard but has lots of feel to it. Will try and upload some pics of the van but don't seem to be able to from an iPad for some reason
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Post by m201 on Dec 27, 2012 20:56:42 GMT 1
Doesn't need a servo Fred couldn't find a left hand drive one for love nor money,that's why ended Up fitting a adjustable bias pedal box from a mk2 escort rally car,the pedal is a bit hard but has lots of feel to it. Will try and upload some pics of the van but don't seem to be able to from an iPad for some reason What's the difference between an LHD servo and a RHD servo please Braders? If you want an LHD one, I may be able to find you one.
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Post by m201 on Dec 28, 2012 10:32:03 GMT 1
Doesn't need a servo Fred couldn't find a left hand drive one for love nor money,that's why ended Up fitting a adjustable bias pedal box from a mk2 escort rally car,the pedal is a bit hard but has lots of feel to it. Will try and upload some pics of the van but don't seem to be able to from an iPad for some reason I was thinking about your set up and Fred's alarm that you don't have a servo Braders, I wondered if folks realise that the sort of set up you've got is ultra high maintenance.
I wonder if people realise that you have to bleed your brakes say every 200 miles or each week, which ever comes first. And adjust your rear brakes with about the same frequency.
It's a system for total enthusiasts I'm afraid folks.
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Post by braders on Dec 28, 2012 20:01:10 GMT 1
Not really had any problems with adjustable brake bias been using them on cars for years where space is tight under the bonnet As long as you use the correct master cylinders no worries, they take a bit of setting up at first but once you have the front to rear balance right then all is well.
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Post by m201 on Dec 28, 2012 20:29:47 GMT 1
Not really had any problems with adjustable brake bias been using them on cars for years where space is tight under the bonnet As long as you use the correct master cylinders no worries, they take a bit of setting up at first but once you have the front to rear balance right then all is well. Yes, they are good systems despite that they are high maintenance, otherwise they wouldn't use them on track and rally cars.
You talk about balancing the front against the back, have you taken the load apportioning valve off by any chance then Braders?
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Post by mk1andy on Dec 30, 2012 1:53:51 GMT 1
I don't know about braders van but the earlier german ones didn't have LAVs fitted from new.
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Post by m201 on Dec 30, 2012 10:05:01 GMT 1
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