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Post by chewie on Jun 25, 2013 9:23:39 GMT 1
hi we just recently brought a2L pinto powered transit. Which runs really well on tick over but as soon as you start to go up any sort of incline it loses all power now I have replaced most of the election system new points plugs leads etc now when we compared the dizzy to a mates pinto engine. it looks as if ours has the dizzy 180 degrees out. I'd this possible in a Ford as I now it is in a flat 4 VW engine which will run but with the same effect. when I put my Ford leads on what might be the correct position it won't even start! so have had to resort to 180 out. I have yet to compession test the engine but only having covered 42k from New you'd hope it wasn't that. it also has had a32/36 weber fitted
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Post by bobdragon12 on Jun 25, 2013 13:18:36 GMT 1
I'm might be able to help here as I had similar problems although you may not like the outcome , I suggest a compression test to see if the valve seats or rings have gone . Mine had bad valve seats as it did not have hardened seats for running unleaded let alone the 10years + it was run on LPG which is even worse than unleaded . Hope that helps a little
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Post by muttleymk2 on Jun 25, 2013 21:12:58 GMT 1
I would suggest doing a static timing check first, what colour is your dizzy cap?
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Post by RDTranny on Jun 25, 2013 23:04:29 GMT 1
Hi There,
The position of the dizzy can vary quite a bit from engine to engine so it is possible to look out by 180 deg. yet be perfectly timed. The dizzy is turned by a gear which can be fit at different angles and then the timing done afterward. I'd do as muttley says and check the timing with a lamp to see if its advancing properly. A compression test would be a good idea and hopefully rule out any really bad news!
Does it immediately lose power on the incline? It might be a fuel starvation problem?
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Post by FredTransit on Jun 26, 2013 9:24:06 GMT 1
always check the cheapest thing first I was told this a long time ago while fretting one of the head gaskets had gone (V4). Turned out to be a dodgy plug! As already said, try the timing before you look for a new engine!
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Post by chewie on Jun 26, 2013 13:21:34 GMT 1
I would suggest doing a static timing check first, what colour is your dizzy cap? dizzy cap is Orange
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Post by chewie on Jun 26, 2013 13:24:23 GMT 1
Hi There, The position of the dizzy can vary quite a bit from engine to engine so it is possible to look out by 180 deg. yet be perfectly timed. The dizzy is turned by a gear which can be fit at different angles and then the timing done afterward. I'd do as muttley says and check the timing with a lamp to see if its advancing properly. A compression test would be a good idea and hopefully rule out any really bad news! Does it immediately lose power on the incline? It might be a fuel starvation problem? I was thinking that it was possible to look 180 out but still be correct Yes it loses power instantly!! and drinks petrol like I had a big block under the hood.
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Post by chewie on Jun 26, 2013 21:28:27 GMT 1
well the compression test confirms the worst!!!( balls) No 1 has 70psi 2...50psi 3...100psi 4...150psi
so now does one tell if it's rings or valves
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Post by bobdragon12 on Jun 26, 2013 22:02:56 GMT 1
Wow that is low , I thought mine was bad :-(
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Post by bobdragon12 on Jun 26, 2013 22:03:36 GMT 1
Wow that is low , I thought mine was bad
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Post by FredTransit on Jun 27, 2013 8:36:57 GMT 1
thats a bit of a shocker on a low mileage engine. We have a Mk2 luton (from brand new) that was babied from 160 miles. Properly run in and early on Ford serviced. That only made it to 55k. We were gutted. Alex's first engine made it to 116k! It really does seem like the luck of the draw.
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Post by RDTranny on Jun 27, 2013 9:17:22 GMT 1
well the compression test confirms the worst!!!( balls) No 1 has 70psi 2...50psi 3...100psi 4...150psi now does one tell if it's rings or valves Ouch! There are guides online if you google it but basically if you squirt a Iittle oil into the cylinger you're testing and the compression increases then its the rings.If not then the valves or a break in the gasket between cylinders. Either way it's got to come apart so you could do both valves and rings while you're at it.
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Post by peterg on Jun 27, 2013 10:12:43 GMT 1
Chewie,
It’s worth checking the valve clearance, on the Pinto they closing up if not checked regular.
Peter.
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Post by chewie on Jul 2, 2013 20:25:53 GMT 1
as it is raining in Cornwall today I had the valve cover off adjusted the valves. also poured some oil down the plug holes but all too no avail. so it looks like it's of with its head..... does anyone have an idea of what it costs to have a head rebuilt? it seems a bit of a shame to lose the og engine if it can be helped
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