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Post by gpw on Nov 10, 2012 14:30:14 GMT 1
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Post by stoney on Nov 10, 2012 18:48:01 GMT 1
bloody pricey if you ask me! its a corsa steering motor and an ebay controller with a cut n shut column, you can buy the bits for £50 and do it yourself!
Not sure its a good idea either as it may put extra strain on the original steering box, prob alright if you got a burman box.
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Post by gpw on Nov 10, 2012 19:46:33 GMT 1
I daresay you're right about it being pricey Stoney, if you are a bit on the disabled side, and / or lack mechanical skills, it's about the only option I've seen for years. Someone asked about power steering a while back, so I put it on.
Incidentally, how do you work out it could damage the steering please?
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Post by stoney on Nov 11, 2012 18:44:18 GMT 1
Hi
Yeah thats fair enough, as much as anything the info is useful to anyone who wants to have a go diy.
The reason I think it could possibly damage the steering box (although it is only a thought) is that you aren't supposed to use the steering on these when your not moving and with the electric assistance it would be very easy to do so, also it would mean you could turn the box faster than it was originally designed to and also you may find when you hold it at full lock the power assister will try and keep turning.
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Post by gpw on Nov 11, 2012 19:38:06 GMT 1
Does the system work apply force between the wheel and the box then please Stoney? Or does it apply force to the track rod (or drag link) as was normal for aftermarket power assisted steering on Transits, etc please?
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Post by stoney on Nov 12, 2012 15:53:57 GMT 1
Hi, it is basically an electric motor mounted on the steering column so applies force between the wheel and the box.
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Post by gpw on Nov 12, 2012 17:52:26 GMT 1
Thanks Stoney, I see what you mean, not a good way to go at all.
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Post by muttleymk2 on Nov 12, 2012 18:23:31 GMT 1
I remain unconviced about the long term survival of these electric kits, they are designed to move a small cars rack and pinion. The super heavy steering of a beam axled transit is another thing alltogether! Also methinks folk will fit this stuff to their knackered old transits with no thought as to WHY the steering is heavy.
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Post by gpw on Nov 12, 2012 19:04:44 GMT 1
Do you know of anyone does shims / wedges to set Transit camber please Muttley?
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Post by FredTransit on Nov 12, 2012 19:24:26 GMT 1
I am sure he can knock some up if you need them!
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Post by muttleymk2 on Nov 12, 2012 20:49:29 GMT 1
Transits, as far as this forum is concerned have beam axles, that means they have KPI, King Pin Inclination so u cant do much there for camber short of bending the axle beam.Some have axle wedges as standard but that is for caster but I suppose I could fabricate ones of different angles, what would be the reason for changing factory specs?
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Post by gpw on Nov 13, 2012 10:56:42 GMT 1
Transits, as far as this forum is concerned have beam axles, that means they have KPI, King Pin Inclination so u cant do much there for camber short of bending the axle beam.Some have axle wedges as standard but that is for caster but I suppose I could fabricate ones of different angles, what would be the reason for changing factory specs? As semi-elliptic / cart springs settle, the caster angle changes Muttley.
Wedges / shims used to be off the shelf in the old days.
Plus, Fords set Transit caster up to suit most of the people, most of the time. The dreaded 'one size fits all'.
Even from new, before WW2, people had caster angles set to suit their use. My caster gauges must be older than the conker trees on the common. The guy who passed them on to me couldn't remember them ever being used. He started in his dad's garage business in the mid 50s. Lots of motors running round with beam axles in those days.
Low speed work in town benefits a slightly different angle from the one size suits all production line. High speed motorway work behefits from a different angle again.
Then again, you change your caster angle when you load your motor. I guess that many of the beam axle motorhome conversions I've seen would benefit from having their caster sorted. I've never checked one with a gauge though.
Similarly, I guess Fords didn't change design when radials became popular. Radials benefit from different caster angles to cross plies.
Camber's the one you can't change without a forge and a muscley bloke with a big hammer. Well, I suppose you can renew king pins and their bearings.
Bet you wished you hadn't asked? ;D
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